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new Judith Butler on TERFs 

Perhaps as an apology for cutting their previous article they really gave Butler space to stick the boot in this time:

"As a fascist trend, [the anti-gender movement] mobilizes a range of rhetorical strategies from across the political spectrum to maximize the fear of infiltration and destruction that comes from a diverse set of economic and social forces. It does not strive for consistency, for its incoherence is part of its power."

theguardian.com/us-news/commen

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex I am in awe of the politeness:

"It is not easy to fully reconstruct the arguments used by the anti-gender ideology movement because they do not hold themselves to standards of consistency or coherence."

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new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex Cynically, I think it probably helped that it’s 90% about the various neo-fash movements with only a tiny mention of TERFs right at the end

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex …in particular, the shift from “it is very appalling and sometimes quite frightening to see how trans-exclusionary feminists have allied with rightwing attacks on gender” in the censored interview to “it makes no sense for “gender critical” feminists to ally with reactionary powers” seems significant

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex (I’m moved to wonder if the transphobes at the Guardian might be shifting to a position of “we’re sensible moderates, not like those nasty right-wingers in Hungary”. It’s a good tactical move and also a way to avoid questions about the role of the Heritage Foundation and American evangelicals. Though luckily, TERF campaigners mostly seem too bigoted and hateful to take a moderate position for very long.)

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@ghost_bird @alex enogh clever tactical retreats will eventually be indistinguishable in final effect from ceding the territory

just gotta keep the pressure up

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex except it's not on terfs, it's on "anti-gender ideology", which of course terfs are a part of but unless I am mistaken it doesn't mention terfs, trans exclusionary radical feminism or the UK (except as it is used to represent the gender-boogeyperson). I wonder if this was a condition of writing the article in the guardianus.

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@bound @alex there's just a little mention at the end, I'm sure she and the Guardian US editors are aware if it was any stronger the UK HQ would probably have censored it—and maybe they did

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@nev @alex yes, you're right there's the last paragraph where Butler appeals to gender critical to stop being gender critical cause it's against their interests and like the countries where the bad nationalistic anti-gender stuff is happening, whilst omitting mention of two of the largest examples and exporters of this fascism: the uk and the us (no mention of the state level anti trans laws so far as I noticed either).

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@bound @alex feels a bit like "you can condemn transphobia as long as it's by social conservatives and/or Over There"

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@nev @alex but aren't the us state level anti-trans laws pushed by social conservatives and politicians pandering to them?

I agree with the xenophobia point though, it's pretty consistent for the guardian to be exceptionalist about the us/uk, more disappointed in Butler for this and thinking that gender criticals are amenable to reason when she just wrote an article about their unreasonableness.

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@bound @alex that is true, and arguably a lot of terf stuff is bankrolled by conservative religious organizations. they would get nowhere if not for allying with these causes

it's also important to highlight what's going on in the rest of the world rather than myopically focusing on anglo countries

in conclusion 🤷

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@nev @alex certainly exclusively focusing on us/uk is also bad, and a thing that happens in other articles, in this one though omitting mention of them altogether despite them being two of the most responsible places for the deliberate and systematic export of binary gender, patriarchy and queer hate around the world misses something vital from the picture.

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@bound @alex fair enough

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@bound @nev @alex my friend just wrote up a really good response that points out what bound is saying:

weirder.earth/@RadiantEmber/10

Butler is wholesale appealing to White Feminism, and disappointing the third wave.

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@Moss @bound @nev gtbh I disagree with this reading, since it is pertinent to the argument to cite countries with fascist or otherwise extreme right-wing governments that are expressly anti-LGBT+ as a matter of policy, because Butler's article is about siting the "gender critical" movement as a project of international fascism. None of these countries are evoked for their perceived backwardsness (mostly EU member states, *Denmark* is included in that same paragraph).

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@alex @bound @nev exempting the us/uk from focus when they’ve been proponents for anti-trans state action is still a glaring oversight, and has really heavy implications.

new Judith Butler on TERFs 

@Moss that's true, yeah!

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