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A (rare) critical article about Purism's Librem 5 phone;
The Sad Saga of Purism and the Librem 5 by Jay Little:
jaylittle.com/post/view/2019/1
This focuses (in three parts!) on their phone and Purism as a hardware company and doesn't even get around to touching on the hate speech enabling social network they host. The long and short of it is that you should be avoiding Purism like a bad smell.

@Shrigglepuss I'm glad I canceled in early August, sounds like a bunch of people won't be as lucky

@Shrigglepuss Well @purism is actually here in the Fediverse. I'd like to know what they think about it!

@phel @purism go for it, they've been approached about their shitty code of conduct by us before and done nothing about it so good luck finding some sort of sensible and responsible concious over there 🀷 you'll find them in the seedy section of the fediverse being pally with Gab

@Shrigglepuss freedom means the freedom to suck. If you support the right to have an opinion at all than the only way to ensure that freedom is to make it as inconclusive as possible. That means assholes are a fact of life. Mastodon is largely uncensored by nature too, and eventually the assholes will find this place.

@Jabberwocky freedom can also mean freedom from said assholes, whom we've already seen plenty of in the fediverse. Freedom also means freedom to resist them from entering our own spaces here, and freedom to tell them to fuck off and warn others about them to reduce our overall exposure to them so we can get on with being lovely instead of having the threat of assholes shouting over from a FrEe SpEeCh ZoNe looming over us. (1/2)

@Jabberwocky Nothing good would ever come from them federating with Gab etc or having a free speech/only moderating on the basis of US legality CoC. Defederating from that kind of space erodes no freedoms because anyone interested in those sorts of networks can freely sign up to them and fill their boots still. I don't understand why they feel the need to facilitate that on their own servers so strongly, nor why we should stand for it being near to us (2/2)

@Shrigglepuss

why do i have this feeling that there was never going to be a phone, and all of that money is being used to fund nazis...

@lyliawisteria @Shrigglepuss yes the very nazis who hired several trans people, including their head of hardware. It all makes sense

@thibaultamartin @lyliawisteria they've shielded themselves behind token trans people so ThEy CaN't PoSsIbLy Be BaD? Good for them.

@Shrigglepuss @thibaultamartin @lyliawisteria I doubt they'd finance nazis, it's quite the opposite, they don't want to alienate them because they want them as customers.
(well, not "nazis", just "identitarians" and "nationalists" who definitely aren't nazis, nuh uh, because they told us so and they are soooo trustworthy </snark>)
Anyways, Purism's bad but mostly just incompetent and spineless bad, not movie villain level bad.

@grainloom @Shrigglepuss @thibaultamartin this is actually how nazis are funding their shit, though. they pull scams like this. it's not implausible.

@lyliawisteria @grainloom @thibaultamartin I'd have to see proof before I'd say it's what is going on or suggesting so because it's important when speaking out about something to be sure you're not making things up otherwise you'd be the person that's crying wolf, but I wouldn't be shocked tbh

@lyliawisteria @Shrigglepuss @thibaultamartin can you give an example of a scam like this?
this would be a very elaborate and inefficient way to scam people imho.
it seems more like greed and an overblown ego leading to promises that were impossible to keep.

@Shrigglepuss That second part is incredibly damning. I've seen another Kickstarter product get delayed for years in the most awful way possible, but there was no doubt they were going to deliver (and they did) because they were transparent and apologetic about everything that went wrong. Librem has conducted itself in exactly the opposite way, and will end in a flaming wreckage.

@Shrigglepuss yup the PR at @purism about shipping and delays definitely needs some work.

That said, IIRC there was a Series A funding for Purism. Maybe @todd could shed some light here

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